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On The Cover:
"Pursuing Sexual Wholeness: How Jesus Heals The
Homosexual" by Dr. Andrew Comiskey
copyright 1989
But On The Inside:
page 85 and 87:
" . . . a fundamental realignment of the will. ... Whom will one serve, Jesus or
the powerful lure of homosexual desire?" ... . . . strugglers are called to make
firm their ultimate allegiance to Him. . . . Jesus wills that we will undivided
loyalty to Him. That commitment is central to pressing into a deeper level of
healing."
page 97:
" . . . homosexual strugglers must contend . . . ... If strugglers want to be truely
free . . . ... . . . battle plans must be made and effectively exercised."
page 104:
" . . . by pledging our allegiance to the rule of Christ Jesus, we are delivered. By
deliverance I don't mean being rid altogether of homosexual feelings. ... God
frees the struggler to rise up and take hold of Jesus in the face of temptation
instead of slouchiing toward sin."
page 104-105:
"Terry, my good friend and conselee, once received a powerful deliverance. A few
years ago, some church members . . . cast out several spirits that had
empowered homosexual lust . . . For the first time, he began to say no to
homosexual behavior. One month later, however, Terry met a Christian man who
became his lover."
page 89 and 88:
"At the outset of Desert Stream, I spent a day with a very nice-looking guy who,
in the course of our time together, acted seductively toward me. I loved it. . . .
a part of me would have thoroughly enjoyed having sex with him. All I could
do . . . in light of Annette, was to remove myself forcibly and awkwardly . . . But
that night I wrestled with lust and the temptation to call him . . . From that
day forward I held no illusion about my absolute safety from seducing or
being seduced. Satan, the enemy, knew my vulnerability and was waging a war
against me."
page 149
"I was a pastor, a director of a healing ministry for homosexual strugglers, a
husband and a father when I came to grips with my pornography addiction (see
chapter 5)."
page 188
"We cannot expect to experience a complete absence of sexual struggles in
this lifetime. ... That means the homosexual struggler may still experience
homosexual temptations. ... None of that minimizes God's healing power. It
simply places that healing . . . in a process that will never end . . . "
pages 188-189
"Flurries of homosexual feeling cannot shake the rock on which I stand - Christ
Jesus."
page 190
"While giving a series of lectures on sexual redemption one time, I felt
consumed with a longing for distinctly masculine love and affirmation. I ached for
it. I felt frustrated that my male friendships could not wholly meet that need . . . I
felt tempted to entertain lustful masculine images. And I resented God for all of it
- . . . the temptations. Most of all, I resented His intangibility in the midst of my
struggle.
"While walking to my lecture on "healing" (laugh track, please), I finally broke. I
cried out to the Lord . . . I wept even more as I considered those attending
the lecture I was about to teach and how their hearts needed that same mercy
and grace."
"Pursuing Sexual Wholeness: How Jesus Heals The
Homosexual" by Dr. Andrew Comiskey
copyright 1989
But On The Inside:
page 85 and 87:
" . . . a fundamental realignment of the will. ... Whom will one serve, Jesus or
the powerful lure of homosexual desire?" ... . . . strugglers are called to make
firm their ultimate allegiance to Him. . . . Jesus wills that we will undivided
loyalty to Him. That commitment is central to pressing into a deeper level of
healing."
page 97:
" . . . homosexual strugglers must contend . . . ... If strugglers want to be truely
free . . . ... . . . battle plans must be made and effectively exercised."
page 104:
" . . . by pledging our allegiance to the rule of Christ Jesus, we are delivered. By
deliverance I don't mean being rid altogether of homosexual feelings. ... God
frees the struggler to rise up and take hold of Jesus in the face of temptation
instead of slouchiing toward sin."
page 104-105:
"Terry, my good friend and conselee, once received a powerful deliverance. A few
years ago, some church members . . . cast out several spirits that had
empowered homosexual lust . . . For the first time, he began to say no to
homosexual behavior. One month later, however, Terry met a Christian man who
became his lover."
page 89 and 88:
"At the outset of Desert Stream, I spent a day with a very nice-looking guy who,
in the course of our time together, acted seductively toward me. I loved it. . . .
a part of me would have thoroughly enjoyed having sex with him. All I could
do . . . in light of Annette, was to remove myself forcibly and awkwardly . . . But
that night I wrestled with lust and the temptation to call him . . . From that
day forward I held no illusion about my absolute safety from seducing or
being seduced. Satan, the enemy, knew my vulnerability and was waging a war
against me."
page 149
"I was a pastor, a director of a healing ministry for homosexual strugglers, a
husband and a father when I came to grips with my pornography addiction (see
chapter 5)."
- page 175
"After I was married and became steeped in domestic, ministry and seminary
demands, I no longer had much time for same-sex friendships. So the
need surfaced illigitimately in an addiction to pornography.
- page 71 and 72
" . . . Fuller Theological Seminary; and Desert Stream flouished. Yet in the
midst of it all, I became addicted to pornography. I felt cmpelled almost
weekly to seek sidelong glimpses of softcore portn . . . About seven years
had passed since any habitual use of the slime. I was as suprised as
Annette when I discovered my impotence to resist it once more. . . . This
condition continued erratically for about two years. ... . . . I overcame the
compulsion. God called me to a higher allegiance . . . The Lord showed me
that I still wasn't exempt from bondage . . . "
- page 83 and 84
"For . . . approximately two years, I found myself caught up in . . . mild
pornographic material . . . Through . . . support . . . the cycle was
broken. I failed at times."
page 188
"We cannot expect to experience a complete absence of sexual struggles in
this lifetime. ... That means the homosexual struggler may still experience
homosexual temptations. ... None of that minimizes God's healing power. It
simply places that healing . . . in a process that will never end . . . "
pages 188-189
"Flurries of homosexual feeling cannot shake the rock on which I stand - Christ
Jesus."
page 190
"While giving a series of lectures on sexual redemption one time, I felt
consumed with a longing for distinctly masculine love and affirmation. I ached for
it. I felt frustrated that my male friendships could not wholly meet that need . . . I
felt tempted to entertain lustful masculine images. And I resented God for all of it
- . . . the temptations. Most of all, I resented His intangibility in the midst of my
struggle.
"While walking to my lecture on "healing" (laugh track, please), I finally broke. I
cried out to the Lord . . . I wept even more as I considered those attending
the lecture I was about to teach and how their hearts needed that same mercy
and grace."
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On The Cover:
"More Than Words: a 1-Day Conference by Tim Wilkins:
Walking People Out of Homosexuality."
To see the cover click here or see illustration at left
But On The Inside:
"Why I Won't See Brokeback Mountain" by Tim Wilkins
"Brokeback Mountain continues to gain momentum. ... I will avoid the movie . . .
and . . . cannot understand why any evangelical would see it . . . . . . my going to
see Brokeback Mountain would be similar to asking a former alcoholic to go to a
liquor store . . . Opponents of ex-gay ministries will immediately shout "Aha-so you
are still tempted with same-sex attractions!" I do not deny it! ... These
opponents will also argue that ex-gay ministries "only teach avoidance
techniques." Indeed, avoiding anything which may cause temptation is
appropriate . . .
"I will not see the two hour and fourteen minute movie; rather, I will devote an
additional two hours and fourteen minutes to my time with God who, when I
am tempted, will also provide a way out so that I can stand up under it."
"How To Love Homosexuals" by Tim Wilkins
[From his 5th Point:]
"Loving Homosexuals Requires Believing in Freedom from Homosexuality
A ‘love’ that rejects the reality of freedom should be considered “cruel and
unusual punishment.” A grace that forgives us of sin, but does not free us
from sin is a grace not worth having. ... "
Tim Wilkins is the Executive Director of Cross Ministry of Wake Forest, NC. Cross
Ministry is an Exodus Member Ministry.
"More Than Words: a 1-Day Conference by Tim Wilkins:
Walking People Out of Homosexuality."
To see the cover click here or see illustration at left
But On The Inside:
"Why I Won't See Brokeback Mountain" by Tim Wilkins
"Brokeback Mountain continues to gain momentum. ... I will avoid the movie . . .
and . . . cannot understand why any evangelical would see it . . . . . . my going to
see Brokeback Mountain would be similar to asking a former alcoholic to go to a
liquor store . . . Opponents of ex-gay ministries will immediately shout "Aha-so you
are still tempted with same-sex attractions!" I do not deny it! ... These
opponents will also argue that ex-gay ministries "only teach avoidance
techniques." Indeed, avoiding anything which may cause temptation is
appropriate . . .
"I will not see the two hour and fourteen minute movie; rather, I will devote an
additional two hours and fourteen minutes to my time with God who, when I
am tempted, will also provide a way out so that I can stand up under it."
"How To Love Homosexuals" by Tim Wilkins
[From his 5th Point:]
"Loving Homosexuals Requires Believing in Freedom from Homosexuality
A ‘love’ that rejects the reality of freedom should be considered “cruel and
unusual punishment.” A grace that forgives us of sin, but does not free us
from sin is a grace not worth having. ... "
Tim Wilkins is the Executive Director of Cross Ministry of Wake Forest, NC. Cross
Ministry is an Exodus Member Ministry.
On The Cover:
"Coming Out Of Homosexuality: New Freedom for Men &
Women" by Bob Davies & Lori Rentzel, copyright 1993
James Dobson of 'Focus on the Family' and of 'Love Won Out' advertises this
book for sale to his radio listeners. Click here.
But On The Inside:
page 27:
"The goal of the ex-gay or former lesbian is wholeness in all areas of life . . .
Many former homosexuals eventually go on to experience marriage . . . Of course,
being married does not prove that a former homosexual is "healed." We have
talked to many people who are married and still struggling with homosexual feelings
and behavior. They live . . . feeling trapped in a heterosexual facade while
secretly longing for same-gender sexual intimacy. ...
"But back to the question. ... What do we mean by the word heterosexual? . . .
. . . you may wonder if you will ever experience a strong, even passionate, lust
when looking at an attractive member of the opposite sex on the beach. ...
this certainly is not our goal in being healed. ... . . . healing means
experiencing sexual interest in the opposite sex, as well as having healthy
friendships . . . this constitutes true, godly heterosexuality."
page 95-96
"You are heterosexual in Christ," the speaker said and I (Bob) shifted
uncomfortably in my seat. "No matter how deep your homosexual feelings are,
deeper still lies your heterosexuality, buried under a thousand fears."
"I will never forget that lecture by Colin Cook at the 1982 Exodus International
conference in Denver . . . By this time I had been part of a ministry to homosexuals
. . . for over three years. Am I really heterosexual? I wondered . . . How could I
honestly claim to have a heterosexual identity? I did not feel heterosexual. I
was not sexually attracted to women. I still had homosexual feelings for
other men.
". . . I felt trapped . . . feeling foreign to the idea of a heterosexual identity.
Did God expect me to "fake it" in terms of my feelings? Should I somehow "step out
in faith" and believe I was heterosexual . . . ... Over the years I have moved into
a new perspective on this question. ... Being created in the image of God is
something to ponder. ... On a bad day I see Bob Davies as frustrated, struggling . .
. worthless creatures, powerless to change . . . but . . . we are made in his image . .
. ... Notice that there are only two categories . . . man . . . or a woman . . .
No third option. ... Each of us . . . male or female . . ."
page 158
"A[n ex-gay] husband can just as easily experience a same-sex temptation
one hour after making love to his wife as he can five days later.
"In [ex-gay married] men, homosexual temptations can be prompted by such
emotions as anger, loneliness, frustration and boredom. ... If pressures of being a
spouse or parent push these emotional "buttons," homosexual temptations may
actually increase in the married ex-gay . . . "
page 162
"Ex-gay men may not feel an overwhelming physical attraction to their future
spouse . . .
"Ex-gay [married] men . . ., the majority do not experience sexual arousal
solely by looking at their wife's body. [Instead] . . . sexual arousal [must come
by] touch and emotional feelings.
"Most ex-gay men do not struggle with sexual temptation for women . . . not
the strong visual attraction experienced by most straight men. ... So a lack of sole
dependence on visual stimulation can actually be a blessing."
"Coming Out Of Homosexuality: New Freedom for Men &
Women" by Bob Davies & Lori Rentzel, copyright 1993
James Dobson of 'Focus on the Family' and of 'Love Won Out' advertises this
book for sale to his radio listeners. Click here.
But On The Inside:
page 27:
"The goal of the ex-gay or former lesbian is wholeness in all areas of life . . .
Many former homosexuals eventually go on to experience marriage . . . Of course,
being married does not prove that a former homosexual is "healed." We have
talked to many people who are married and still struggling with homosexual feelings
and behavior. They live . . . feeling trapped in a heterosexual facade while
secretly longing for same-gender sexual intimacy. ...
"But back to the question. ... What do we mean by the word heterosexual? . . .
. . . you may wonder if you will ever experience a strong, even passionate, lust
when looking at an attractive member of the opposite sex on the beach. ...
this certainly is not our goal in being healed. ... . . . healing means
experiencing sexual interest in the opposite sex, as well as having healthy
friendships . . . this constitutes true, godly heterosexuality."
page 95-96
"You are heterosexual in Christ," the speaker said and I (Bob) shifted
uncomfortably in my seat. "No matter how deep your homosexual feelings are,
deeper still lies your heterosexuality, buried under a thousand fears."
"I will never forget that lecture by Colin Cook at the 1982 Exodus International
conference in Denver . . . By this time I had been part of a ministry to homosexuals
. . . for over three years. Am I really heterosexual? I wondered . . . How could I
honestly claim to have a heterosexual identity? I did not feel heterosexual. I
was not sexually attracted to women. I still had homosexual feelings for
other men.
". . . I felt trapped . . . feeling foreign to the idea of a heterosexual identity.
Did God expect me to "fake it" in terms of my feelings? Should I somehow "step out
in faith" and believe I was heterosexual . . . ... Over the years I have moved into
a new perspective on this question. ... Being created in the image of God is
something to ponder. ... On a bad day I see Bob Davies as frustrated, struggling . .
. worthless creatures, powerless to change . . . but . . . we are made in his image . .
. ... Notice that there are only two categories . . . man . . . or a woman . . .
No third option. ... Each of us . . . male or female . . ."
page 158
"A[n ex-gay] husband can just as easily experience a same-sex temptation
one hour after making love to his wife as he can five days later.
"In [ex-gay married] men, homosexual temptations can be prompted by such
emotions as anger, loneliness, frustration and boredom. ... If pressures of being a
spouse or parent push these emotional "buttons," homosexual temptations may
actually increase in the married ex-gay . . . "
page 162
"Ex-gay men may not feel an overwhelming physical attraction to their future
spouse . . .
"Ex-gay [married] men . . ., the majority do not experience sexual arousal
solely by looking at their wife's body. [Instead] . . . sexual arousal [must come
by] touch and emotional feelings.
"Most ex-gay men do not struggle with sexual temptation for women . . . not
the strong visual attraction experienced by most straight men. ... So a lack of sole
dependence on visual stimulation can actually be a blessing."
| Ex-Gay Ministries In Their Very Own (Sorry) Words |
On The Cover: What Wonder- ful Claims They Make |
But on the Inside: Just The Opposite Is Stated (And In Their Very Own Words) |
| Tim Wilkins |
| Bob Davies |
Bob Davies on
Sodom and
Gomorrah,
Genesis 16:4-5
"However,
pro-gay
theologians
are correct in
saying that this
passage does
not provide a
strong
argument
against
prohibiting all
homosexual
acts."
Appendix A
page184
Coming Out of
Homosexuality
Sodom and
Gomorrah,
Genesis 16:4-5
"However,
pro-gay
theologians
are correct in
saying that this
passage does
not provide a
strong
argument
against
prohibiting all
homosexual
acts."
Appendix A
page184
Coming Out of
Homosexuality
On The Cover:
"Homosexual No More: Practical Strategies for Christians
Overcoming Homosexuality" by Dr. William Consiglio
copyright 1991
But On The Inside:
page 13:
" . . . let me ask the question that may be on your mind. Does that mean that
everyone should expect a complete heterosexual recovery? No! . . . many can
make substantial heterosexual recovery . . . ... . . . freed of the homosexual
obsession and preoccupation.
page 13:
"That was ten years ago. Almost 100 clients later I have seen the Lord continue to
perform the miracle of transformed lives. That's what this book is all about."
page 50:
"He will have many a day when he will wonder whether anything is changing at
all."
page 51:
"This is one of the aspects of the healing of homosexuality. The more one
persevers in suffering and temptation, the more he develops strength of
character. This . . . produces more and more hope. In turn, this allows him to
persevere in suffering . . . It is just this kind of inner strength that heals . . . "
page 52 - 54:
"He must get serious about prayer . . . he must bring everything to God in prayer
... . . . meditating on the Lord freqently and regularly during the day. ... . . .
make these daily conversations a regular practice . . . ... The overcomer must
make continuous contact with . . .His Word, the Bible. . . . full participation and
responsibility in his church. . . . [find] a trustworthy person . . . with whom the
overcomer can be accountable and share his struggles regularly."
page 59:
"Effective and genuine healing does not take place unless the overcomer
gradually moves through several stages of integration."
page 85:
"God is certainly able to eliminate every trace of homosexual interest and desire
in a person. ... [But] My experience as a Christian therapist . . . is that . . .
overcomers experience . . . ... . . . a very small "h" remainging. This means that
they may still experience some homosexual feelings or interests from time to
time; some tempatations, but with a minimum of tension, conflict, or difficulty
pages 179-194:
"Chapter Eleven - Homosexual No More: David's Testimony"
"Homosexual No More: Practical Strategies for Christians
Overcoming Homosexuality" by Dr. William Consiglio
copyright 1991
But On The Inside:
page 13:
" . . . let me ask the question that may be on your mind. Does that mean that
everyone should expect a complete heterosexual recovery? No! . . . many can
make substantial heterosexual recovery . . . ... . . . freed of the homosexual
obsession and preoccupation.
page 13:
"That was ten years ago. Almost 100 clients later I have seen the Lord continue to
perform the miracle of transformed lives. That's what this book is all about."
- page 33 and 34 and 35:
- "The person you are counseling can overcome homosexuality and can
recover his or her heterosexuality. Literally thousands have done this and
are doing this. ... . . . they have recovered heterosexual desires. ...
Homosexual attractions do decline and diminish. The big "H" of homosexuality
becomes a small "h." ... What do I mean by recovery? What is realistic
expectations? ... Recovery is able to go on . . . with minimally bothersome
homosexual feelings, thoughts, desires, and attractions (temptations), and
avoiding all homosexual behavior. ... You see, recovery doesn't mean
your overcomer will never notice an attractive same-sex person again or that
he will never be tempted again. It does mean that he will be in control and
that homosexuality will not control his life. ... . . . recovery means the
ability to manage such tempatations . . . "
- page 37:
"I have seen many people change this disorientation . . . "
page 50:
"He will have many a day when he will wonder whether anything is changing at
all."
page 51:
"This is one of the aspects of the healing of homosexuality. The more one
persevers in suffering and temptation, the more he develops strength of
character. This . . . produces more and more hope. In turn, this allows him to
persevere in suffering . . . It is just this kind of inner strength that heals . . . "
page 52 - 54:
"He must get serious about prayer . . . he must bring everything to God in prayer
... . . . meditating on the Lord freqently and regularly during the day. ... . . .
make these daily conversations a regular practice . . . ... The overcomer must
make continuous contact with . . .His Word, the Bible. . . . full participation and
responsibility in his church. . . . [find] a trustworthy person . . . with whom the
overcomer can be accountable and share his struggles regularly."
page 59:
"Effective and genuine healing does not take place unless the overcomer
gradually moves through several stages of integration."
page 85:
"God is certainly able to eliminate every trace of homosexual interest and desire
in a person. ... [But] My experience as a Christian therapist . . . is that . . .
overcomers experience . . . ... . . . a very small "h" remainging. This means that
they may still experience some homosexual feelings or interests from time to
time; some tempatations, but with a minimum of tension, conflict, or difficulty
pages 179-194:
"Chapter Eleven - Homosexual No More: David's Testimony"
- page 179
"David's testimony deserves to be heard, not because his is the most
healed or the most successful overcomer . . . but because he is one of the
most committed and persevering persons I know."
- page 191
"Homosexual feelings are little more than a nuisance to me [David] most of the
time now. I have slips and backslidings and I cave in to my stress-relief
cycle periodically. Sure, occasionally I see a man who turns my head. The
yearning, lustful desire rises up occasionally. ... I have passed the
ultimate test of recovery - engaging in casual conversation in a locker
room with a naked man whilie maintaining eye contact."
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Home Page of this site:
Other Sheep Exec Site
Other Sheep's Official
Website: Other Sheep
A Paper: An Evaluation of
the Ex-Gay Movement --
Eight Observations, by
Steve Parelli
Links about or signi-
ficant to Steve and Jose's
ex-gay story
Resources for
Addressing the Ex-Gay
Movement:
The Ex-Gay Movement In
Their Own (Sorry) Words
Other Sheep Exec Site
Other Sheep's Official
Website: Other Sheep
A Paper: An Evaluation of
the Ex-Gay Movement --
Eight Observations, by
Steve Parelli
Links about or signi-
ficant to Steve and Jose's
ex-gay story
- The Unhappy Gays
by Tim LaHay, the
only evangelical gay
book Steve knew of
and which he read in
his late twenties
Resources for
Addressing the Ex-Gay
Movement:
The Ex-Gay Movement In
Their Own (Sorry) Words
- (The services on the
following links are NOT
RECOMMENDED. They
are given for the purpose
of knowing about and
finding ex-gay
organizations for resource
purposes.)
- Desert Stream
Ministries (Living
Waters), founded by
Andrew Comiskey
- HOPE Ministries, a
Connecticut based
ministry
- Pastoral Care
Ministries, founded by
Leanne Payne
- Genesis Counseling,
founded by Joe Dallas
- Redeemed Lives
Ministry, founded by
Rev. Mario
Steve and Jose
| For the ex-gay movement, "change," "healing," "coming out of homosexuality," and being "ex-gay" is about behavior modification. There is no change in sexual orientation, only lifestyle. |
On The Cover:
"Desires in Conflict: Answering the Struggle for Sexual Identity"
by Joe Dallas, copyright 1991
But On The Inside:
page 115:
The idea that homosexuality can be changed is nothing new. The apostle Paul
referred to homosexuals when writing to the Corinthian church, then said, 'And such
were some of you.' We cannot believe the Bible without also believing that God
redeems His people . . . freeing them . . . "
page 125:
"Everything is in a constant state of decay. Without maintenance, things
deteriorate. So do people. So will you [the ex-gay]. If you can accept that fact,
you'll avoid the apathy that keeps some Fighters from maintaining their sexual
integrity."
page 126 and 127:
"Every new level of maturity you achieve will be challenged. ... . . . sexual
temptations linger . . . I'm only warning you to guard your integrity . . . You are
still responsible to keep it under control . . . After repentance . . . a sense of
freedom, a newfound optimism . . . Many people mistake it for complete deliverance
from sexual temptations . . . Sooner or later temptations will come, and the rather
mundane task of day-to-day maintenance replaces the understandable but
unrealistic exhilaration. ... So the best defense against falling away is
maintenance. ... Whether you succeed or fail in this area will be determined by
your willingness to make, and stick to, daily decisions to keep your sex life
consistent with your standards. ... Have a predetermined plan for dealing with the
sexual temptations.
page 131:
"Strugglers get so focused on being "cured" of homosexuality that they judge
their entire well-being by the frequency and intensity of their same-sex
attractions. 'Not again!' they scream. 'I can't believe that person turned me
on. I'm so sick of this, how could those feelings still be there? I'm such a
failure.'
"The truth is,you're only a failure if you haven't done what you were able to do.
Yours is not the responsibility of changing your feelings. You can't anyway.
... Instead, you got to concentrate on taking steps that will promote growth . . .
page 143:
"Integrity - the decision to remain consistent with your standards (and God's) - is
made up of hundreds of small, moment-to-moment decisions. ... You're trying, and
learning, to be governed by your convictions instead of your feelings. That
is the ultimate goal of maintaining sexual integrity."
"Desires in Conflict: Answering the Struggle for Sexual Identity"
by Joe Dallas, copyright 1991
But On The Inside:
page 115:
The idea that homosexuality can be changed is nothing new. The apostle Paul
referred to homosexuals when writing to the Corinthian church, then said, 'And such
were some of you.' We cannot believe the Bible without also believing that God
redeems His people . . . freeing them . . . "
page 125:
"Everything is in a constant state of decay. Without maintenance, things
deteriorate. So do people. So will you [the ex-gay]. If you can accept that fact,
you'll avoid the apathy that keeps some Fighters from maintaining their sexual
integrity."
page 126 and 127:
"Every new level of maturity you achieve will be challenged. ... . . . sexual
temptations linger . . . I'm only warning you to guard your integrity . . . You are
still responsible to keep it under control . . . After repentance . . . a sense of
freedom, a newfound optimism . . . Many people mistake it for complete deliverance
from sexual temptations . . . Sooner or later temptations will come, and the rather
mundane task of day-to-day maintenance replaces the understandable but
unrealistic exhilaration. ... So the best defense against falling away is
maintenance. ... Whether you succeed or fail in this area will be determined by
your willingness to make, and stick to, daily decisions to keep your sex life
consistent with your standards. ... Have a predetermined plan for dealing with the
sexual temptations.
page 131:
"Strugglers get so focused on being "cured" of homosexuality that they judge
their entire well-being by the frequency and intensity of their same-sex
attractions. 'Not again!' they scream. 'I can't believe that person turned me
on. I'm so sick of this, how could those feelings still be there? I'm such a
failure.'
"The truth is,you're only a failure if you haven't done what you were able to do.
Yours is not the responsibility of changing your feelings. You can't anyway.
... Instead, you got to concentrate on taking steps that will promote growth . . .
page 143:
"Integrity - the decision to remain consistent with your standards (and God's) - is
made up of hundreds of small, moment-to-moment decisions. ... You're trying, and
learning, to be governed by your convictions instead of your feelings. That
is the ultimate goal of maintaining sexual integrity."
| For the ex-gay movement, "change," "healing," "coming out of homosexuality," and being "ex-gay" is about behavior modification. There is no change in sexual orientation, only lifestyle. |
| Ex-Gay Ministries In Their Own Words |
| Ex-Gay Ministries In Their Own Words |
The author of
Homosexual No
More helped
start the ex-gay
group that Steve
and Jose attended
"HOPE began at
Calvary Baptist
Church in New
York City under the
direction of Pastor
Ken Geis in May,
1993. At that time,
Dr. Geis contacted
Exodus and Dr.
Bill Consiglio who
guided us along in
establishing HOPE
Ministry, NYC."
________________
Read Steve and
Jose's response to
HOPE's following
statement:
"Over the years,
we have seen
many lives
turned around
and have been
greatly
encouraged by
so many
individuals who
have won the
victory and
gained a new
freedom."
Click here and
then scroll to the
far right column to
read Steve and
Jose's response.
________________
Read Steve and
Jose's response to
HOPE's following
statement:
"Over the years,
we have seen
many lives
turned around
and have been
greatly
encouraged by
so many
individuals who
have won the
victory and
gained a new
freedom."
Click here and
then scroll to the
far right column to
read Steve and
Jose's response.
________________
Andrew
Comiskey's book
"Pursuing Sexual
Wholeness: How
Jesus Heals The
Homosexual" was
published in
1989. Below is a
more recent
writing (2004)
taken from CBN's
"Guest Bio"
GUEST BIO Ex-Gay
Encourages the Church to
Welcome the Sexually
Broken August 25, 2004
"Still in Process
Andrew [Comiskey]
says that he still
struggles with past
desires. Recently,
Andrew and his
wife, Annette,
celebrated their
20th wedding
anniversary by
going to New York
City. While they
were there, they
had time to reflect
on how God
healed each of
them of personal
brokenness --
Andrew of
homosexuality,
and Annette of
childhood sexual
abuse -- and how
God has blessed
their lives.
However, Andrew
found himself
being seduced by
homosexuality in
the New York City
culture. Andrew
"came to his
senses," and he
and Annette
asserted their
identities in Jesus
Christ and prayed
for the people in
that area of New
York to turn their
lives over to Jesus.
Andrew says of this
incident and the
ongoing process
that the healing
comes from firmly
making choices in
God. It's not about
accommodating sin;
it's about having to
rely on God. He
also says it is not
something to
achieve. It is
important to lay a
good foundation,
God's foundation.
God has a high call
on humanity, and
however feeble we
are, God is our
hope and our
boast."
Comiskey's book
"Pursuing Sexual
Wholeness: How
Jesus Heals The
Homosexual" was
published in
1989. Below is a
more recent
writing (2004)
taken from CBN's
"Guest Bio"
GUEST BIO Ex-Gay
Encourages the Church to
Welcome the Sexually
Broken August 25, 2004
"Still in Process
Andrew [Comiskey]
says that he still
struggles with past
desires. Recently,
Andrew and his
wife, Annette,
celebrated their
20th wedding
anniversary by
going to New York
City. While they
were there, they
had time to reflect
on how God
healed each of
them of personal
brokenness --
Andrew of
homosexuality,
and Annette of
childhood sexual
abuse -- and how
God has blessed
their lives.
However, Andrew
found himself
being seduced by
homosexuality in
the New York City
culture. Andrew
"came to his
senses," and he
and Annette
asserted their
identities in Jesus
Christ and prayed
for the people in
that area of New
York to turn their
lives over to Jesus.
Andrew says of this
incident and the
ongoing process
that the healing
comes from firmly
making choices in
God. It's not about
accommodating sin;
it's about having to
rely on God. He
also says it is not
something to
achieve. It is
important to lay a
good foundation,
God's foundation.
God has a high call
on humanity, and
however feeble we
are, God is our
hope and our
boast."
| ______________ Bob Davies tells his own personal story in My Secret War ______________ |
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| Other Sheep Site-Links for "Ex-gay" Exposed |
- Document. "Is There Really
Such A Thing as Ex-gay?"
by Steve Parelli. - Document. Spanish
translation of "Is There
Really Such A Thing as Ex-
gay?" by Steve Parelli - Published. "Why ex-gay
therapy doesn't work," by
Steve Parelli. The Gay &
Lesbian Review. (A shorter
version without footnotes
and bibliography of "Is
There really such a thing as
ex-gay?") - Introduction. "Is There
Really Such a Thing as Ex-
gay?" Introduction of the 8
observations of the ex-gay
myth. - Primary Source. What ex-
gay proponents say in their
own words without
commentary. - Christianity Today Article
by Tim Stafford. Article
attempts to vindicate ex-
gay, but only exposes the
myth of ex-gay - - see our
highlighted segments of
the article. - Aired on TV Ex-gay paper
aired on TV in Paraguay - Seminars Given - Ex-gay
Paper Presented - "Is
There Really Such a Thing
as Ex-Gay?"
- Ex-gay Paper - "Is There
Really Such a Thing as Ex-
gay?" used as part of a
course curriculum
- Latin American
Biblical University,
San Jose, Costa
Rica; see Other
Sheep e-news
article.
- Personal How Steve Parelli
and Jose Ortiz Met: An Ex-
Ex-gay love story. - Testimonial The Ex-Gay
support group of Calvary
Baptist Church,
Manhattan, New York --
their bogus claim to "so
many individuals who have
won the victory and gained
a new freedom."